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It's confusing to nickname this wiki "governance wiki" – for instance in the FAQ – if it's exclusively about WMF policies. Perhaps "WMF Governance wiki"? That also would continue to work with the <tt>wmf:</tt> shorthand for interproject links. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 23:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
It's confusing to nickname this wiki "governance wiki" – for instance in the FAQ – if it's exclusively about WMF policies. Perhaps "WMF Governance wiki"? That also would continue to work with the <tt>wmf:</tt> shorthand for interproject links. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 23:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|sj}} We are trying (trying being the key word) to [[m:Communications/Communicating about the Wikimedia Foundation#Use of "Wikimedia Foundation" (Hint: Do not use "WMF")|move away from using "WMF"]] (except in usernames and code - as you just cannot solve the issue reasonably well everywhere...yet) as it does not translate well, is used in trademarks we do not control, is a barrier to entry for new people, is not as widely known as those of us on the inside think, promotes EuroUS language concepts, and invites a slew of other acronyms (TWF comes up increasingly often). I mention that for context of those curious - not to beat the topic down. What about "Foundation Governance Wiki"? I think most of the code has been updated to "Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki" for what it is worth. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) &#91;he/him&#93;]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
:{{ping|sj}} We are trying (trying being the key word) to [[m:Communications/Communicating about the Wikimedia Foundation#Use of "Wikimedia Foundation" (Hint: Do not use "WMF")|move away from using "WMF"]] (except in usernames and code - as you just cannot solve the issue reasonably well everywhere...yet) as it does not translate well, is used in trademarks we do not control, is a barrier to entry for new people, is not as widely known as those of us on the inside think, promotes EuroUS language concepts, and invites a slew of other acronyms (TWF comes up increasingly often). I mention that for context of those curious - not to beat the topic down. What about "Foundation Governance Wiki"? I think most of the code has been updated to "Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki" for what it is worth. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) &#91;he/him&#93;]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
:: Interesting! 'Foundation' is a fine qualifier, this is f.wm.org after all. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 04:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

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Translation tagging mistake

Around T:16 the header and the paragraph should be separated. --Base (talk) 23:13, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Base: Thank you for letting us know! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 23:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GVarnum-WMF: Please deactive the translation of the page title, translation of the page title in combination with DISPLAYTITLE gives an error at Policy:Human Rights Policy/de. Thanks, --Ameisenigel (talk) 16:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ameisenigel: I was not aware of that issue - that is a strange bug. Thank you - I will go ahead and fix that. By chance, do you know if that issue has been reported on Phabricator? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 02:24, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have not found a related phabricator task. --Ameisenigel (talk) 15:07, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ameisenigel: I am trying to reproduce to report on Phabricator. Can you verify if you are seeing the error on either of these pages?
Thank you! -- Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 07:47, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GVarnum-WMF: No error so far, but this could be because you have translated the page title and DISPLAYTITLE with the same word. If I translate a page, I would in general keep the namespace prefix and then we would have an error, I think. --Ameisenigel (talk) 08:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ameisenigel: Ah yes - now I think I see the error you are describing. I have filed a Phabricator ticket. Feel free to add more there or let me know via here if you have things you would like added but would rather not do so directly. Thank you again for pointing it out - very strange indeed. -- Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 18:49, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Response Times/Detail

Hello,

I just sent in a set of questions by email to the two emails named, but was wanting to confirm I'd have an answer to each of those (not just the email as a whole) within 3 working days.

Also, taking a look at some of the emails through wikimedia-L, there seems to be an issue with staff needing to go and gather answers on why various things were included, or only providing answers to some of the questions. I'm confused on why the first is taking any time at all...surely you should have an extremely good knowledge, readily accessible, on why anything was included in a global policy?

Cheers,

Nosebagbear (talk) 09:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

s/Governance wiki/WMF Governance wiki/

It's confusing to nickname this wiki "governance wiki" – for instance in the FAQ – if it's exclusively about WMF policies. Perhaps "WMF Governance wiki"? That also would continue to work with the wmf: shorthand for interproject links. SJ + 23:16, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Sj: We are trying (trying being the key word) to move away from using "WMF" (except in usernames and code - as you just cannot solve the issue reasonably well everywhere...yet) as it does not translate well, is used in trademarks we do not control, is a barrier to entry for new people, is not as widely known as those of us on the inside think, promotes EuroUS language concepts, and invites a slew of other acronyms (TWF comes up increasingly often). I mention that for context of those curious - not to beat the topic down. What about "Foundation Governance Wiki"? I think most of the code has been updated to "Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki" for what it is worth. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting! 'Foundation' is a fine qualifier, this is f.wm.org after all. SJ + 04:41, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]