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We should set-up a similar page as soon as we get some more official postions. --[[User:Daniel Mayer|Daniel Mayer]] 05:26, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps [[Official positions]]
By the way,
*@De, Fr, Ko; page(s) should be updated - there is only mention to Election 2004, and its vote elibigility but this information is now almost useless because the eligilibity in this year was changed.
*En modified, but still it seems to need to be worked due to the same reason as above; and if it is okay, before calling for translators, it should be copyedited.
Thank you for attention, --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 22:15, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

== Where to discuss this page ==

I have a couple of comments on this page, mainly regarding style and consistency. Since most people can not edit and discuss on this wiki, is there a talk page on meta which is more suitable? If so, where? // [[User:Habj|habj]] 15:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
:True. This is not a right place to have a discussion. We are better to go to an open wiki. How about [[m:Talk:Translation requests/WMF/Board of Trustees]] (or ../source)? We can also invite people somewhere else, site feedback, [[m:Metapub]] etc. --[[User:Aphaia|Aphaea]] 15:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

== Notes ==

"(to be held until chapters make their own appointment)"

I misread this to understand that Michael held the ''Chair'' position until the chapters make their own appointments, rather than that his term is until the chapters make their own appointment. At the moment I think it is reasonable to read it as the chapters will be appointing the Chair and the Executive Secretary, rather than simply appointing those two ''seats'' (not many people fully understand how the executive is appointed).

However, I didn't want to make any changes for fear of losing body parts, so suggesting it to someone who has guillotine-immunity :) Cheers, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 03:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

:I was thinking this earlier but then forgot about it. ;-) I just added a note that should clear it up a little bit. '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 17:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Chart ==

Courtesy of WJBscribe:

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color:appointed from:16/01/2004 till:14/12/2006 text:"[[User:Tim Shell|Tim Shell]]"
color:appointed from:16/01/2004 till:30/11/2007 text:"[[User:Michael Davis|Michael Davis]]"
color:elected from:01/06/2004 till:01/07/2007 text:"[[User:Anthere|Florence Nibart-Devouard]]"
color:elected from:01/06/2004 till:25/09/2006 text:"[[User:Angela|Angela Beesley]]"
color:appointed from:08/12/2006 till:13/07/2007 text:"[[User:Mindspillage|Kat Walsh]]"
color:appointed from:08/12/2006 till:13/07/2007 text:"[[User:Oscar|Oscar van Dill.]]"
color:appointed from:21/04/2008 till:31/12/2008 text:"[[User:Stu|Stu West]]"
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color:appointed from:15/12/2006 till:31/12/2008 text:"[[User:Jan-Bart|Jan-Bart de Vreede]]"
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color:elected from:26/09/2006 till:15/12/2007 text:"[[User:Eloquence|Erik Möller]]"
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color:elected from:13/07/2007 till:06/09/2008 text:"[[User:Frieda|Frieda Brioschi]]"
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at:26/09/2007
at:26/09/2007
color:elected from:26/06/2008 till:01/07/2009 text:"[[User:Wing|Ting Chen]]"
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Anyone know how to fix it so it displays, and any ideas where we should put it? [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] 00:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Bring up a discussion on [[m:Wikimedia site feedback]] (so more can participate) and make sure we poke Jay or someone on ComCom for their opinion. '''[[User:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:green">Cbrown1023</span>]]''' '''<small>[[User talk:Cbrown1023|<span style="color:#002bb8">talk</span>]]</small>''' 14:23, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sticking this somewhere for a few minutes ==

* [[#Ting Chen|Ting Chen]], Chair <small>(term until July 2013)</small>
* [[#Jan-Bart de Vreede|Jan-Bart de Vreede]], Vice Chair <small>(term until December 2012)</small>
* [[#Phoebe Ayers|Phoebe Ayers]], Executive Secretary <small>(term until July 2012) </small>
* [[#Stu West|Stu West]], Treasurer <small>(term until December 2012)</small>
* [[#Bishakha Datta|Bishakha Datta]] <small>(term until December 2012)</small>
* [[#Matt Halprin|Matt Halprin]] <small>(term until December 2012)</small>
* [[#Samuel Klein|Samuel Klein]] <small>(term until July 2013)</small>
* [[#Arne Klempert|Arne Klempert]] <small>(term until July 2012)</small>
* [[#Jimmy Wales|Jimmy Wales]], <small>(term until December 2012)</small>
* [[#Kat Walsh|Kat Walsh]] <small>(term until July 2013)</small>

Going to switch a Board member infobox in a few minutes, but in case I get distracted, I snipped this info out of the article.... --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] 23:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

== TL;DR ==

I doubt if anyone is ever going to read that amount of text, especially with the newest additions which are ''awfully'' formatted. I'd suggest a rewrite of the page, for instance in a way that Bishakha's and Stu's one-paragraph descriptions suggest, with links to more detailed descriptions where appriopriate. (And probably a new, more colourful design, could also help.) A concerned Wikimedian, [[user:odder|odder]] 23:00, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, agreed.

There are a few issues here with the [https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?oldid=83125 current version] of the page:

* there's currently too much text for each person (only about a paragraph or two is needed);
* some of the writing is just bad;
* the tenure accomplishments sections are bizarre:
** they're horribly duplicative;
*** including completely out-of-left-field sentences such as "This year, Lisbett Rausing and Peter Baldwin have donated $1.25 million." (repeated three times!);
** usually sections such as these would be reserved only for Board chairs (in the same way that high court history is written about and referred to by the chief judge [e.g.., the Rehnquist Court]);
** this kind of content would generally go on a single Board history or Board accomplishments page;
** these tenure sections create needless page imbalance between old and new Board members (which is bad for both aesthetic/layout and social reasons);
* we need better linking to more information; if people really want Jimmy's full bio, they can read his user page and/or his biography on the English Wikipedia; the [[former Board members]] actually already have this feature; and lastly
* more text is a larger pain in the ass to get translated.

I'm hoping to find some time in the next week or so to fix up the page. We'll see! --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 23:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

:A few months ago, Sue asked me to expand the Board of Trustees page to add length to their individual bios in a manner that better reflected their accomplishments, further promoted their work on-wiki and detailed their focus on the Board. We've conducted a number of interviews with board members and we've enlisted other board members to directly edit their bios on Office wiki, then the plan has been to transfer them over to Foundation wiki as they are ready. The discrepancy in the lengths of the bios reflects the difference in who has completed their bios and signed off on them, versus those who have yet to complete them. The imbalance should only be temporary. Bishakha's will likely be ready soon and I'm hopeful Stu's will too. I'm fine with reverting it for now if it seems unacceptable to you both, but I hope you'll understand that we're planning to expand them all to approximately 5-7 paragraphs. Sue also wanted to dramatically expand the amount of text associated with their tenure accomplishments. That large blog of text reflects quite a few hours of her and my time combing through the past resolutions and working on language that fit her vision for the page. I'm happy to discuss other ways to format and make it more pleasing to the eye, but she intends to have that material in some format on the page. I'll leave her a note to weigh in if she'd like, but I hope we can have a longer conversation about this before you change it too much. I'm super open to your suggestions and help in improving this. Thanks, [[User:Mroth|Mroth]] ([[User talk:Mroth|talk]]) 00:22, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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