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Summary of ~80 messages; editorializing by [[user:phoebe|phoebe]] | <small>[[user_talk:phoebe|talk]]</small> 18:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC) in brackets. |
Summary of ~80 messages; editorializing by [[user:phoebe|phoebe]] | <small>[[user_talk:phoebe|talk]]</small> 18:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC) in brackets. |
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==communication re: fundraising season== |
===communication re: fundraising season=== |
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* develop banner approaches in the off-season [the fundraising team |
* develop banner approaches in the off-season [the fundraising team already does this, but there's desire for community discussion too] |
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already does this, but there's desire for community discussion too] |
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communicate it to the stakeholders |
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that this, the en.wp fundraiser, is their biggest crunch week] |
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at fundraising to the team; "The fundraising team is amazing at their |
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jobs" |
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==message content== |
===message content=== |
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* don't mislead about ads: potential implication that if we don't get |
* don't mislead about ads: potential implication that if we don't get the money we'll run ads is not ok [agreed.] |
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* don't mislead about WMF finances: potential implication that we'll go off the air immediately if you don't donate is not ok [note, I'm not seeing this in the current message, but I may not be seeing it because every fundraising appeal I've ever gotten is crouched in crisis terms.] |
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the money we'll run ads is not ok [agreed.] |
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* don't mislead about WMF finances: potential implication that we'll |
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go off the air immediately if you don't donate is not ok [note, I'm |
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not seeing this in the current message, but I may not be seeing it |
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because every fundraising appeal I've ever gotten is crouched in |
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crisis terms.] |
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clear/is too American [the latter is a problem esp. with English |
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Wikipedia messaging, I suspect] |
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* comments about emails, too [note, previous donors get 1 email a year] |
* comments about emails, too [note, previous donors get 1 email a year] |
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* comment that 1/fundraiser a year is not true for those unlucky souls |
* comment that 1/fundraiser a year is not true for those unlucky souls who get a/b tested |
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who get a/b tested |
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* as contributors, we want to be proud of Wikimedia, and not |
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because of above points. |
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==banner size== |
===banner size=== |
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* pop-ups are no good [pretty clear consensus] |
* pop-ups are no good [pretty clear consensus] |
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* sticky banners no good [I'm not sure if there's consensus on this point] |
* sticky banners no good [I'm not sure if there's consensus on this point] |
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* banners that obscure content are no good [note, though we agree on |
* banners that obscure content are no good [note, though we agree on the principle, I am personally skeptical about the claim of this banner interfering with our mission; the content is still right there] |
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the principle, I am personally skeptical about the claim of this |
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banner interfering with our mission; the content is still right there] |
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* mobile banners too big, x to dismiss too small |
* mobile banners too big, x to dismiss too small |
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==brand image== |
===brand image=== |
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* current messages are seen as harming brand image because of above |
* current messages are seen as harming brand image because of above content points |
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content points |
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* harming brand image is not ok [I think we're all agreed on this] |
* harming brand image is not ok [I think we're all agreed on this] |
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* messages should encourage people to contribute content as well [def. |
* messages should encourage people to contribute content as well [def. worth exploring] |
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worth exploring] |
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* what would happen if donors were shown financials alongside banners? [note this seems very impractical to me. The majority of donors do not have experience with big nonprofit finances or a scope of comparison. Yes, I look at the 990s of charities I give to, but I suspect I'm unusual in that way]. |
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* user sentiment analysis is important [possible action point: maybe |
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tests?] |
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* what would happen if donors were shown financials alongside banners? |
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[note this seems very impractical to me. The majority of donors do not |
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have experience with big nonprofit finances or a scope of comparison. |
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Yes, I look at the 990s of charities I give to, but I suspect I'm |
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unusual in that way]. |
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==data== |
===data=== |
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* we want all the data, because we are Wikipedians |
* we want all the data, because we are Wikipedians |
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* especially .. user sentiment methodology & raw data |
* especially .. user sentiment methodology & raw data |
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* social media reaction: it seems very negative/more negative than |
* social media reaction: it seems very negative/more negative than past??/how much is there/should we worry about it? |
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past??/how much is there/should we worry about it? |
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been trying to optimize for fewer impressions for a long while, hence |
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the shorter fundraiser] |
Revision as of 18:23, 5 December 2014
Wittylama had a few comments about fundraising principles, particularly as applied to the annual coordinated banner campaign. Reposted here:
- "easily dismissible on mobile" (...the impossibly-small "x" icon to dismiss...)
- I also find it hard to use the "X" icons we have for dismissing interfaces and overlays: both these banners and elsewhere.
- "Tell the OTRS team and appropriate Chapter (when applicable) when any major change (such as adding/removing a new payment method) happens in that language/country.
- "Maximal Participation: ...we should empower individuals and groups world-wide to constructively contribute to direct messaging."
- rather than being ambassadors for our mission, wikimedians are feeling increasingly embarrassed
- "Minimal disruption: ...causing minimal disruption and annoyance for users of the projects"
- Instead, a desire to finish fundraising quickly is given higher priority.
- As you say, "less disruption" != "shorter". I wonder what the fundraising team's internal measures of disruption/annoyance are: I know they are aiming for low disruption, not just short duration. For example, we now have a larger proportion of fundraising done continuously throughout the year in part because that is less disruptive.
- I would be glad to see a longer campaign with better side effects. For instance, a campaign that leaves everyone who sees it feeling more inspired and enthusiastic, motivated to recruit others to get involved, rather than annoyed or guilty or concerned. I don't know how possible this is, but it's worth trying and striving for. –SJ talk
- "Internationalism: ...our fundraising practices must support the easiest possible transfer of money internationally."
- we've had the recent discussions about how donating is difficult from the Netherlands and impossible from Russia
- I don't know the answers to these specific cases, nor how long it takes to implement changes. These issues do get regular consideration; I was glad to see a number of new ways to donate implemented in the past year, regionally and globally. –SJ talk 04:23, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
Transparency...
"All Wikimedia fundraising activities must be truthful with prospective donors." I'm a bit concerned at the fact that this is listed as a principle signed off by the board, yet people have reported (on wikimedia-l) at having to "set things straight" with their friends who had been shocked and surprised at the wording which was being used. -- Chuq (talk) 07:10, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
summary of wikimedia-l thread "Fundraising banners (again)" / Nov 26, 2014 --
Summary of ~80 messages; editorializing by phoebe | talk 18:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC) in brackets.
communication re: fundraising season
- develop banner approaches in the off-season [the fundraising team already does this, but there's desire for community discussion too]
- if you do something new (in a geography etc.) make sure you communicate it to the stakeholders
- fundraising team seen as sometimes unresponsive [though acknowledged that this, the en.wp fundraiser, is their biggest crunch week]
- Also many thanks for the acknowledged very efficient, remarkable job at fundraising to the team; "The fundraising team is amazing at their jobs"
message content
- don't mislead about ads: potential implication that if we don't get the money we'll run ads is not ok [agreed.]
- don't mislead about WMF finances: potential implication that we'll go off the air immediately if you don't donate is not ok [note, I'm not seeing this in the current message, but I may not be seeing it because every fundraising appeal I've ever gotten is crouched in crisis terms.]
- message sounds like an obituary/doesn't sound like an obituary/is clear/is too American [the latter is a problem esp. with English Wikipedia messaging, I suspect]
- comments about emails, too [note, previous donors get 1 email a year]
- comment that 1/fundraiser a year is not true for those unlucky souls who get a/b tested
- as contributors, we want to be proud of Wikimedia, and not demotivated by the banners. some find the fundraising demotivating because of above points.
banner size
- pop-ups are no good [pretty clear consensus]
- sticky banners no good [I'm not sure if there's consensus on this point]
- banners that obscure content are no good [note, though we agree on the principle, I am personally skeptical about the claim of this banner interfering with our mission; the content is still right there]
- mobile banners too big, x to dismiss too small
brand image
- current messages are seen as harming brand image because of above content points
- harming brand image is not ok [I think we're all agreed on this]
- messages should encourage people to contribute content as well [def. worth exploring]
- user sentiment analysis is important [possible action point: maybe user sentiment re: brand should be more highly weighted in the banner tests?]
- what would happen if donors were shown financials alongside banners? [note this seems very impractical to me. The majority of donors do not have experience with big nonprofit finances or a scope of comparison. Yes, I look at the 990s of charities I give to, but I suspect I'm unusual in that way].
data
- we want all the data, because we are Wikipedians
- especially .. user sentiment methodology & raw data
- social media reaction: it seems very negative/more negative than past??/how much is there/should we worry about it?
- how many impressions do people see? Is it really less? [note, we've been trying to optimize for fewer impressions for a long while, hence the shorter fundraiser]