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== Red link == |
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== Allow people contributing pictures to conceal camera make and model for privacy reasons == |
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When I uploaded some photos taken using my smartphone I didn’t realise that the wikiMedia website would display all the EXIF metadata from the camera. Please can you add a privacy feature to the user account to hide camera make and model information for my contributions [[User:Adrian816|Adrian816]] ([[User talk:Adrian816|talk]]) 14:23, 27 February 2018 (UTC) |
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:I think that's a technical question about removal of the EXIF metadata from your existing uploads, and about removing EXIF during your future uploads. Perhaps ask [[:Commons:Village pump]]?<!-- ([[:c:Commons_talk:Exif#Privacy|related discussion]], [[:c:Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2005/06#EXIF|related discussion 2]], [[:c:Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/06#Is_there_a_tool_for_making_edits_to_EXIF_data_available_on_Commons?|Is there a tool for making edits to EXIF data available on Commons?]])--> --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:30, 27 February 2018 (UTC) |
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::If your photo is displayed somewhere and you download it from there, the downloaded file has no EXIF metadata. The problem though is that without the metadata, there is no evidence that you're the photographer. [[User:Guido den Broeder|Guido den Broeder]] ([[User talk:Guido den Broeder|talk]]) 23:47, 1 March 2018 (UTC) |
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::: But metadata may be edited by a some easy ways, and this is not a evidence in the general case. --[[User:Kaganer|Kaganer]] ([[User talk:Kaganer|talk]]) 14:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC) |
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::::In my POV show the metadata of a file in Commons improves the transparency and openness of the project. But many persons as Adrian can't be aware of this. We can suggest a legend or banner in the Upload Form to prevent the people to be uninformed of this technical characteristic. [[User:ProtoplasmaKid|ProtoplasmaKid (WM-MX)]] ([[User talk:ProtoplasmaKid|talk]]) 20:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Push for EU standards == |
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There seems to be a wide push for USA companies to apply the standards of the GDPR worldwide, for all users: https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-facebook-ceo-privacy-exclusive/exclusive-facebook-ceo-stops-short-of-extending-european-privacy-globally-idUKKCN1HA2MN |
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The implications of [[:en:GDPR|GDPR]] may be unclear for our free software, but it would still be helpful if Wikimedia Foundation were ready to answer similar questions. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 06:06, 4 April 2018 (UTC) |
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: Strongly agree. Unjustified expansion of application [https://www.google.ru/search?q=data+protection+and+street+photography&gws_rd=ssl GDPR is a very dangerous and toxic initiative] for free knowledge world (and primarily for Wikimedia Commons). It is very important that the [[Legal|WMF Legal Team]] investigate this topic and publish a special appeal and lead a public campaign against this expansion. {{Ping|EHershenov (WMF)|TSebro_(WMF)}} what your opinion about this issue? Maybe someone is already working on learning this?--[[User:Kaganer|Kaganer]] ([[User talk:Kaganer|talk]]) 15:35, 4 April 2018 (UTC) |
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== Reporting privacy violation - IP to real person mapping == |
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Where can one report mappings, true or not, that have been made on Wikimedia sites from an IP address to a living person? [[Special:Contributions/85.179.161.128|85.179.161.128]] 09:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:On the English Wikipedia, please contact [[:en:Wikipedia:Oversight|oversight]]. On other sites, contact their local oversight process. For meta, and other sites without an oversight process, contact a [[Steward]]. [[User:TheDragonFire|TheDragonFire]] ([[User talk:TheDragonFire|talk]]) 11:33, 18 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== Diff quality == |
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The [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18063543&oldid=17995859&rcid=11900547 quite unreadable diff] doesn't help the conversation. I recommend that you revert it and apply things like translation unit changes and uppercase changes in separate diffs. Also, some translation units don't follow best practices for translatability. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 17:28, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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There is a red link in [[Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions#There is outdated or inaccurate information about me in a Wikipedia article! How do I update my information?|this section]], please change it to correct link to Privacy policy, thanks. [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Is there a reason a link to the diff wasn't included in the blog post? Or some kind of summary of the changes? I read a few references to "minor edits" without a description of what was actually changing. I eventually found <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy&diff=18063543&oldid=17995859> myself, and I agree with Nemo that this diff is not enjoyable to read, even for long-time editors. It's not immediately clear which paragraphs were removed, which were added, which were reformatted, and why. --[[User:MZMcBride|MZMcBride]] ([[User talk:MZMcBride|talk]]) 23:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:@[[User:Ата|Ата]]: Thank you for pointing this out - I have gone ahead and fixed it. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Anonymization == |
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== Interwiki to enwiki == |
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It's troubling that the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Privacy_policy%2FFAQ&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=18063549&oldid=16949953 updated FAQ section] and the link on "Wikipedia:Courtesy_vanishing" make specific reference to a guideline specific to the English Wikipedia. What does "for further reference" entail? --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 17:32, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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[[Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions]] has an interwiki link to [[w:en:Wikipedia:Username_policy]], which is strange. Is it intended? [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 17:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Consent and other changes == |
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:@[[User:Ата|Ата]], can you elaborate on what you find odd? The linking to that specific page, the formatting of the link, or something else? Thank you! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC) |
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I'm glad that the new text [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=18063543&oldid=17995859&rcid=11900547 removed] the sentence «you consent to the collection, transfer, storage, processing, disclosure, and other uses of your information in the U.S.», which was quite user-hostile because users don't quite consent to anything. Saying «We will access, use, preserve, and/or disclose» is definitely more honest than «We may access, preserve, or disclose»; same for all the other removed "may" and removed «Information available through public logs will not include personal information about you». |
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::I find it weird that [[File:OOjs UI icon language-ltr-progressive.svg|20px]]<span style=color:#3f6fcf>1 language</span> button on top of the page links to that specific page. Privacy policy FAQs ≠ enwiki username policy. [[User:Ата|<span style="color:SteelBlue">Ата</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Ата|<span style="color:#80A0FF">(talk)</span>]]</sup> 15:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Fixed! It was [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Policy:Privacy_policy/Frequently_asked_questions&diff=prev&oldid=310909 a mis-ordered link]. Thanks! [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 02:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Discusssion at en WP == |
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The sentence «Depending on your jurisdiction, you also may have the right to lodge a complaint with a supervisory authority competent for your country or region» is also a welcome admission. The WMF often sounded tone-deaf on this matter in the past. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 17:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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There is a privacy related discussion on en.wiki; you can read the discussion and give advice [[w:en:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Allowing_editors_to_opt_out_of_private_information_on_XTools.|here]]. [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]] ([[User talk:Cremastra|talk]]) 13:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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==Confidential data== |
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I see that a sentence was removed: «If you choose to provide your email address, we will keep it confidential, except as provided in this Policy». Other sections kept similar sentences, for instance «We keep IP addresses confidential» and «We keep information obtained by these technologies confidential», in addition to «In the extremely unlikely event that ownership of all or substantially all of the Foundation changes, or we go through a reorganization (such as a merger, consolidation, or acquisition), we will continue to keep your personal information confidential». |
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== ru link == |
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What does this mean? Does it mean that other parts of the policy can allow such data to be shared even without saying it explicitly? --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 17:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Please make [[Политика конфиденциальности]] a redirect to [[Policy:Privacy policy/ru]]. [[User:Colt browning|colt_browning]] ([[User talk:Colt browning|talk]]) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC) |
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==Hidden text== |
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Why move the paragraph about "Your username will be publicly visible" in the collapsed box? This also breaks the translation unit and forces new translation for all languages. Please just revert (the text is identical). |
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:@[[User:Colt browning|Colt browning]]: That has been fixed. However, if that link is actively used anywhere - please let me know and we may be able to update its usage. Thank you! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC) |
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The paragraphs on "Publicly Visible Information" were hidden too. --[[User:Nemo_bis|Nemo]] 17:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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== COPPA == |
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Hello. Can people under 13 edit Wikipedia? [[User:Wimajo15|Wimajo15]] ([[User talk:Wimajo15|talk]]) 08:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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I am curious about whether the current policy is compliant with GDPR when it comes to Europeans people in its databases. For example, has every donator currently receiving sollicitations (by email) to make a donation explicitly given consent for it ? Or is WMF boldly deciding not to follow the requirements in that policy ? Thank you for the answer. [[User:Anthere|Anthere]] ([[User talk:Anthere|talk]]) 21:20, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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:it goes without saying that the current change of policy seems to be particularly fitting well with the GDPR calendar... |
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:@[[User:Wimajo15|Wimajo15]]: Hello, the term of use and the privacy policy don't prevent children from editing Wikipedia. However, if you are a younger user, it is recommended reading [[:en:Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors|the Guidance for younger editors]] and [[:m:Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person|the Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person]] page before editing. Happy editing! [[User:SCP-2000|SCP-2000]] ([[User talk:SCP-2000|talk]]) 09:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Just to avoid confusion: The changes do ''not'' make the privacy policy GDPR compliant: A lot of the mandatory information required by art. 13 GDPR is missing. This is a little confusing in light of the timing of the current changes, which would suggest otherwise. —[[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|talk]]) <small>[[Environmental impact|Let's make Wikipedia green!]]</small> 21:47, 21 May 2018 (UTC) |
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Red link
There is a red link in this section, please change it to correct link to Privacy policy, thanks. Ата (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ата: Thank you for pointing this out - I have gone ahead and fixed it. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
Interwiki to enwiki
Policy:Privacy policy/Frequently asked questions has an interwiki link to w:en:Wikipedia:Username_policy, which is strange. Is it intended? Ата (talk) 17:11, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ата, can you elaborate on what you find odd? The linking to that specific page, the formatting of the link, or something else? Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:40, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- I find it weird that
1 language button on top of the page links to that specific page. Privacy policy FAQs ≠ enwiki username policy. Ата (talk) 15:29, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed! It was a mis-ordered link. Thanks! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I find it weird that
Discusssion at en WP
There is a privacy related discussion on en.wiki; you can read the discussion and give advice here. Cremastra (talk) 13:11, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
ru link
Please make Политика конфиденциальности a redirect to Policy:Privacy policy/ru. colt_browning (talk) 13:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Colt browning: That has been fixed. However, if that link is actively used anywhere - please let me know and we may be able to update its usage. Thank you! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:22, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
COPPA
Hello. Can people under 13 edit Wikipedia? Wimajo15 (talk) 08:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Wimajo15: Hello, the term of use and the privacy policy don't prevent children from editing Wikipedia. However, if you are a younger user, it is recommended reading the Guidance for younger editors and the Staying safe on Wikimedia as a young person page before editing. Happy editing! SCP-2000 (talk) 09:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)