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== Can this site be classified as semi-fishbowl ==
== [[Resolution:Licensing policy]] ==


As unregistered users cannot edit or translate anything and registered users only have ablity to edit talk pages and user pages, and translating content, also creating an account is disabled. Can this wiki be considered "semi-fishbowl"? [[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]] ([[User talk:ToadetteEdit|talk]]) 20:03, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
Can someone help me? I want to translate this resolution page into Vietnamese. Thanks! [[User:Tryvix1509|Tryvix1509]] ([[User talk:Tryvix1509|talk]]) 14:16, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
: CC {{Ping|Quiddity (WMF)}} can you help me? [[User:Tryvix1509|Tryvix1509]] ([[User talk:Tryvix1509|talk]]) 14:01, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
::Hi @[[User:Tryvix1509|Tryvix1509]] - I've asked the people responsible for this site to take a look at your question. Unfortunately, there is not solution that is both easy and good, at this instant.
::Context: If I understand correctly, the current system at [[Resolution:Licensing policy]] is using the ''very'' old (outdated and non-ideal) method of: "manually create a subpage, and add a link for that in the top-navigation-box". That means that the translations can easily get outdated.
::Instead, (if I understand correctly) the entire page (and ''all of the existing translations'', and then any new translations) ought to be migrated into the [[mw:Extension:Translate]] system (which is used for most documentation pages on Meta-wiki/Mediawiki-wiki/Commons/Wikidata). I am not certain what the best short-term solution is, hence I have asked for the other people to take a look.
::I hope that information helps. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 23:57, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tryvix1509|Tryvix1509]]: The [[Resolution:Licensing policy]] page is now setup for translation on the local translation system and translations from Meta-Wiki have been imported. Thank you for your help! [[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 10:21, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:ToadetteEdit|ToadetteEdit]]: Can you elaborate? Considered for what purpose and where? --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 03:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
== make translatable first section: "The nonprofit ....human diversity" ==


== Translations of [[Board meetings]] ==
{{Ping|GVarnum-WMF}} please add the corresponding tags on page [[Give_feedback]]. -- 10:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC) [[User:Wladek92|Christian 🇫🇷 FR]] ([[User talk:Wladek92|talk]]) 10:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)


There seems to be a problem with the section titles for translations of this page. --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Wladek92|Wladek92]] - Thank you for your translation efforts! That content is available for translation on the {{tl|Foundation description}} template. Thank you! [[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 10:19, 9 March 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]]: Thank you for letting us know! This has now been fixed. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
== Wikipedia Desktop Website Dark Mode ==


== Request for translation administrator rights ==
@[[User:SGrabarczuk (WMF)|SGrabarczuk (WMF)]]: I'm sure this has been asked many times, but I was wondering if Dark Mode for the Wikipedia desktop site is every going to be a thing? I mean Volker E. made a pretty good CSS (can be found here if anyone is interested: [[:en:User:Volker_E._(WMF)/dark-mode|WikimediaUI Dark mode]]) So doesn't have to be anything special like the phone app has all those options ([https://www.wikiwand.com/ Wikiwand] works fine for anyone interested in something like that on the desktop, I rather have a simple toggle on the vanilla site cause I'm a simple guy that likes to go on rants about dark mode on Wikimedia late at night lmao). At least for me a pure black dark mode is fine. I was just wondering, cause my late night Wikipedia "rabbit hole" journeys puts a lot of strain on my eyes and I'm sure I'm not the only one lol. Also, don't really want to log into my account all the time if I ever go on other computers (mostly on public computers or work computers) or incognito on the browser to use the CSS. Sorry for the long rant lol. So yeah, was just wondering if it's going to ever happen? [[User:Hurtcopain|Hurtcopain]] ([[User talk:Hurtcopain|talk]]) 07:10, 22 June 2023 (UTC)


Hi, I have been cleaning up some vandalism in my capacity as a global sysop. Since I am not a translation admin here, I am not able to delete translated pages (like [[Agenda:2016-04-22/bm]], not a translation). Therefore I request translation administrator rights according to the [[Wikimedia:Accounts policy]]. Thanks, --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 09:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
:Most likely, YES, @[[User:Hurtcopain|Hurtcopain]]. I'm glad that I can say this is part of our annual plan for the year starting in July :) Unless this changes, which is highly unlikely, we'll be working on dark mode in the next months.
:As a fun fact - there are at least two challenging parts. First of all, we haven't been able to offer preferences to logged-out users. [[mw:Reading/Web/Preference Persistence For Anonymous Users|We're solving this now]]. Secondly, dark mode will not look good if different pieces of code (like templates and other CSS written by the communities on each wiki locally) aren't adjusted to it. So it will require lots of work, not only for the Foundation.
:[[mw:Newsletter:Web_team's_projects|Subscribe to the newsletter]] to watch the progress.
:And thanks for your question! [[User:SGrabarczuk (WMF)|SGrabarczuk (WMF)]] ([[User talk:SGrabarczuk (WMF)|talk]]) 12:14, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you for getting back to me so quickly! That sounds great and I can't wait to see the feature soon. I understand the hurdles it takes to come out with new features, but I just want to thank you and the whole wiki team and community for what they do for not only me but the whole internet. Keep it up! [[User:Hurtcopain|Hurtcopain]] ([[User talk:Hurtcopain|talk]]) 05:51, 24 June 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]]: Thank you for your help! I have gone ahead and setup these rights. Thank you again! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 22:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
== Wikimedia wiki mobile redirect ==


== LincolnBot broke [[Template:Decade years navbox]] ==
Hi,
this wiki does not automatically redirect mobile users to the mobile domain, like Wikimedia projects actually do. For example, clicking on "Terms of Use" on Wikipedia in mobile mode goes to this wiki in desktop mode, wich is not very nice. Please fix. [[User:CyberOne25|CyberOne25]] ([[User talk:CyberOne25|talk]]) 19:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


In [[Special:Diff/361758]] LincolnBot changed the "cat_prefix" parameter to "cat prefix" in [[Template:Decade years navbox]]. Note "cat_suffix" was not changed. By changing the parameter, [[Template:DMCA category by year]] (which uses the "cat_prefix" parameter) no longer links to the correct categories. For example, as of 27 March 2024 if you go to [[:Category:DMCA 2023]] you'll see that in the DMCA category by year nav box that "2022" no longer links to [[:Category:DMCA 2022]], it instead is linking to [[:Category:2022]]. This is because the template [[Template:Decade years navbox]] is no longer recognizing the prefix passed in by [[Template:DMCA category by year]]. —[[User:RP88|RP88]] ([[User talk:RP88|talk]]) 19:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
:Hello @[[User:CyberOne25|CyberOne25]], I have [[phab:T344074|reported this on Phabricator]] where hopefully it can be investigated further and resolved. Thank you for reporting it. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:41, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


:@[[User:RP88|RP88]]: This has been fixed - apologies for the error - and thank you for the alert! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
== shown 3 edit requests but listed none ==


== [[Module:No globals]] ==
On page -> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia:Scope , what is the meaning of 3 in the Maintenance infobox since there are no element in the list page ? May be title to improve.
Edit requests (3)
-- [[User:Wladek92|Christian 🇫🇷 FR]] ([[User talk:Wladek92|talk]]) 07:43, 9 August 2023 (UTC)


If I read the [[w:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 October 29#Module:No globals|en.wikipedia TfD discussion]] correctly, the function of this module has replaced by [[mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#strict|strict]] library of [[mw:Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto extension]], and as it has no [[special:whatlinkshere/Module:No globals|linked-in pages]], do we really need a reason to keep it? [[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|talk]]) 03:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Wladek92|Wladek92]]: That relates to the number of edit requests currently in queue. I am open to suggestions on alternative (but not too long) wording. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
::so where are the 3 ones since the queue is empty when i open the link ? [[User:Wladek92|Christian 🇫🇷 FR]] ([[User talk:Wladek92|talk]]) 06:12, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
:@[[User:Wladek92|Wladek92]]: I am not sure what you mean. I see two pages in [[:Category:Edit requests|that category]] (aka the queue) - one (the template) is excluded from the count, and one is one hold (but still in the queue). That matches the (1) that I now see in that navbox. --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:42, 11 August 2023 (UTC)


:All set - I have gone ahead and deleted that page. Thank you, @[[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]], for the ping! --[[User:GVarnum-WMF|Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him]]] ([[User talk:GVarnum-WMF|talk]]) 20:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
== Delete [[Policy:Terms of Use/es-formal]] ==


== Add autopatrol to editor user group ==
[[Policy:Terms of Use]] offers an untranslated [[Policy:Terms of Use/es-formal|español (formal)]] version. This is unneeded and useless. It seems to have appeared from the [https://foundation.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Policy:Terms_of_Use/es-formal&oldid=271918 creation] of [[Policy:Terms of Use/es-formal]] in what seems a mistake edit by a newbie.


I would like to propose to add the autopatrol user right to the editor user group because I think we do not need to patrol edits from approved staff accounts. {{ping|GVarnum-WMF}} --[[User:Ameisenigel|Ameisenigel]] ([[User talk:Ameisenigel|talk]]) 11:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
TranslatablePage::getTranslationPages() [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-Translate/blob/master/src/PageTranslation/TranslatablePage.php#L339-L363 figures out] the list of languages from the subpages that exist.
(thanks @[[User:BDavis(WMF)|bd808]] for the link)

There's also a second translation ([[Policy:Terms of Use/sh-cyrl]]) listed as "0% translated" as well, which should probably be equally deleted. Seems created by a spammer, which was reverted by [[User:Tropicalkitty|Tropicalkitty]], but the page kept on, edited by [[User:FuzzyBot|FuzzyBot]] and other non-translated edits.

[[User:Platonides|Platonides]] ([[User talk:Platonides|talk]]) 23:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:03, 18 May 2024

Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki Babel

Can this site be classified as semi-fishbowl

As unregistered users cannot edit or translate anything and registered users only have ablity to edit talk pages and user pages, and translating content, also creating an account is disabled. Can this wiki be considered "semi-fishbowl"? ToadetteEdit (talk) 20:03, 10 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

@ToadetteEdit: Can you elaborate? Considered for what purpose and where? --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 03:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Translations of Board meetings

There seems to be a problem with the section titles for translations of this page. --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:30, 11 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ameisenigel: Thank you for letting us know! This has now been fixed. --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 19:45, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Request for translation administrator rights

Hi, I have been cleaning up some vandalism in my capacity as a global sysop. Since I am not a translation admin here, I am not able to delete translated pages (like Agenda:2016-04-22/bm, not a translation). Therefore I request translation administrator rights according to the Wikimedia:Accounts policy. Thanks, --Ameisenigel (talk) 09:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Ameisenigel: Thank you for your help! I have gone ahead and setup these rights. Thank you again! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 22:20, 4 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

LincolnBot broke Template:Decade years navbox

In Special:Diff/361758 LincolnBot changed the "cat_prefix" parameter to "cat prefix" in Template:Decade years navbox. Note "cat_suffix" was not changed. By changing the parameter, Template:DMCA category by year (which uses the "cat_prefix" parameter) no longer links to the correct categories. For example, as of 27 March 2024 if you go to Category:DMCA 2023 you'll see that in the DMCA category by year nav box that "2022" no longer links to Category:DMCA 2022, it instead is linking to Category:2022. This is because the template Template:Decade years navbox is no longer recognizing the prefix passed in by Template:DMCA category by year. —RP88 (talk) 19:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

@RP88: This has been fixed - apologies for the error - and thank you for the alert! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 19:49, 1 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Module:No globals

If I read the en.wikipedia TfD discussion correctly, the function of this module has replaced by strict library of Scribunto extension, and as it has no linked-in pages, do we really need a reason to keep it? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

All set - I have gone ahead and deleted that page. Thank you, @Liuxinyu970226, for the ping! --Gregory Varnum (Wikimedia Foundation) [he/him] (talk) 20:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Add autopatrol to editor user group

I would like to propose to add the autopatrol user right to the editor user group because I think we do not need to patrol edits from approved staff accounts. @GVarnum-WMF: --Ameisenigel (talk) 11:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)Reply